>> michael: coming up lawmakers in washington begin to weigh in on the boston bombing, and it aftermath, and as we are learning today, it is quite an aftermath. i'm michael shure and as david ortiz would say this is our . . . "war room." [♪ theme music ♪] >> michael: it has been one week since the attacks in boston, and today the surviving suspect was charged while the city came together to mourn. and even as boston struggles to piece it's a back together, canadian police announced they

have foiled an al-qaeda terror plot in toronto. at this time there is no evidence that it was connected to boston. this morning funerals were held for two of the victims. >> 29-year-old krystle campbell, a restaurant manager who was at the marathon, cheering on her boyfriend. friends describe her as have kind heart and wry sense of humor, and there was a funeral for lingzi lu, a chinese citizen who had just written her final exams link. an eight year old boy martin richard was killed as was a police officer. today a thousand mourners turned out to pay their respect. the west borough baptist church has threatened to picket the funerals because gay marriage is legal in massachusetts. but 200 teamsters came out to

protect the mourners and the protesters were nowhere to be seen. there was a moment of silence for the victims, the city of boston, white house, house, senate and new york stock exchange all stopped pay their respect. dzhokhar tsarnaev is at boston's hospital. he is on vaent late for and handcuffed to his hospital bed so he won't be able to pull his breathing tube out. he has injuries to his head neck legs and hand. he can't speak because of the neck wounds and may have also sustained hearing loss from the flash bang grenades authorities used. but he is providing written answers where necessary. they are asking whether anyone was helping he or his brother commit these crimes and whether there are anymore undetonated bombs. it is likely they did have plans

to carry out more attacks based on the remaining sarsal of weapons. >> the two suspects were armed with handguns at the seen of the shootout and there were more explosive devices. i believe that the only reason that someone would have those in their possession was to further attack people and cause more -- more death and destruction. >> michael: and just how much death and destruction the suspects meant to cause will be part of the government's case against tsarnaev. today the white house announced he will be tried in civilian not military court. here is jay carney on that. >> he will not be treated as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of

justice. under u.s. law united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions. >> michael: even after that announcement, republican senator, lindsey graham just wouldn't let it go and held a press conference to criticize the decision. >> the ability to talk to individuals who may know about terrorist organizations plotting our future demise is a long-held concept under the law of war. i'm asking this administration to leave on the table the option if the evidence warrants to designate this individual as an enemy combatant. >> michael: despite his protestations, tsarnaev will be tried as a civilian. the charges against him are very serious. the u.s. attorney charged him with, quote . . .

the complaint cites video evidence showing, dzhokhar tsarnaev placing a backpack at the scene and then crossing the street with a cell phone in his left hand. he surveyed the crowd including the 8-year-old boy who died. he takes a picture of the scene holds the phone to his ear, and 18 seconds later the bomb went off. joining us now president and founder of the group terror free tomorrow and the author of the book "terrorists in love." thank for joining us here in "the war room," ken. >> thank you for having me michael. >> michael: what implications does it have that tsarnaev won't be charged as an enemy combatant? >> well, i don't think it has any implications whatsoever. the record at guantanamo for convictions and -- is poor. whereas the record every

terrorist tried in the united states so far in our federal courts has been convicted. i in fact prosecuted terrorists as a federal prosecutor. so i think this is a tempest in the teapot. he is a u.s. citizen. it will him be tried in our courts, let the world see our justice system and let justice prevail. >> michael: yeah, that sounds absolutely reasonable and right way of doing this. let's go to the penalty. the death pen tail not legal in massachusetts, but could that still be in play under federal laws? >> absolutely. the statute that he is being charged under has a -- a penalty of potentially death. there is a federal death penalty. so he could face the death penalty. >> michael: and is that a call made by the justice department?

>> that will be made by the attorney general; that's correct. >> michael: investigators are using rapport-based interrogation techniques. how does that work? >> that's something i did as a prosecutor. and that's something i did for my book, where i interviewed over a 100 members of al-qaeda and the taliban including people that fought in chechnya and you spend a lot of time with them and hopefully they will trust you and open up. a lot of these young men who engage in these acts of terrorism do so out of a sense that they are doing good in the world. so -- they want to share that with you and they do tend to open up, even though they see you as the enemy. that tends to break down with good interrogation, not torture,

which never yields anything but that kind of rapport and talking to someone -- treating someone as a human being ultimately enables them to much more than any of the techniques that had been adopted in the past by us. >> michael: you eluded to the idea of that think they are doing good in the world. even in the cursory way we know suspect right now, do you think he does doing good in terms of his leader being his brother, who appeared to be the ringleader of all of this? >> that -- that is my sense. i mean i -- i -- as i said i have interviewed more than 100 people, who were very similar, young men between the ages of 16 and 30 that's what they all share in common they get wrapped up in this ideology where they think they are helping people serving god, serving a greater cause, and

usually this comes from some kind of deep crisis in their own life. a sense of alienation, a failed love affair and they seek this ideology, they become immersed in it, and they feel like they are doing the right thing. they don't feel like they are doing the wrong thing. a lot of times people say what kind of callusness that a young man can walk into a crowd with a bomb and see an 8-year-old child exploded, but yet in his mind this is all about how he is helping god, serving god, going to go to heaven when he is done and it's -- it's an ideology and an all-encompassing ideology that lifts people up who have problems, young men who are vulnerable and makes them feel powerful. not that dissimilar to what may happen at columbine, or newtown,

or aurora where we see the same phenomenon but just in different guys. >> michael: that's interesting to draw those conclusions. let's talk about these brothers the tsarnaev brothers, did they fit the profile of the young terrorists you have interviewed? does anything in their story or history surprise you? >> not particularly. so many young people who -- young men -- and you have to be clear about that -- who do these acts are very normal and appear outwardly normal there are no warning signs, and people are surprised by it or they were such nice people i never would have suspected, that's fairly typical. you know, the only thing that seems a little bit surprising or out of the ordinary is that they weren't surrounded by more people. that may come out. there may be other people involved in this, but this tends

to be more of a group activity and that is the difference, and michael you kind of alluded it to with the newtown killer he was very solitary and the one in aurora as well. these activities tend to be buttressed by a group. it does tend to be more of a group dynamic, and perhaps this was just a group of two, the two brothers, but i suspect when the full story comes out, that we'll find at least maybe in russia when the elder brother went back there, that there were other people involved. >> michael: you talked about interrogation versus torture, they do something called the sedation holiday where they lower his sedation so he can be questioned. does that blur that line a little bit or not? >> yeah, i don't know the details of it. i think they need to be careful about that.

if he is too sedated he may give them unreliable information. and that's also the problem with torture. if youer to torture someone they may say something but it is probably not the truth. >> michael: i only have 344 more questions for you. but ken ballen, president and founder of the group terror free tomorrow and the author of the book "terrorists in love," thanks so much for coming into "the war room." >> my pleasure. >> michael: now we turn to the mri -- implications for gun policy. they fired hundreds of shots at police. they had two pistols one rifle, and several explosives. but neither was -- were licensed gun owners.

it might be they got the weapons through the gun show loophole which allows people to buy guns without a background check. the senate was not able to pass a law tightening background checks last week. on friday nate bell tweeted this . . . >> michael: representative bell, i wonder how many of them wish tougher gun laws would have stopped the brothers from getting guns in the first place. you, sir, are a moron. coming up will the boston bombings impact the immigration talks here? you better believe it. and remember the whole airport armageddon that we never saw? well, we're seeing it now. and it was 10% political

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especially for meat cutters. guess what his number one comedy is in his state? chicken. that's right. senator michael bennett drafted a cool provision for the ski resorts, making it easier for them to hire foreign see instructors. they could come to the state under the same law the professional athletes use. and florida's marco rubio is seeking to help the cruz industry which brought $6.7 billion to the sunshine state in 2011. we know there are bound to be some special provisions but aren't these pretty pork fried ear marks. joining us is democratic strategist peter fenn, who comes to us from washington, d.c. welcome back as always into "the

war room," peter. >> good to be back with you. >> michael: we love having you, peter. now that the draft is finally here why are republicans trying to debate? >> look, the republicans never have liked immigration reform from the very beginning. they may cry, as they say, foul in south carolina but you know -- >> michael: nice. >> sorry michael. but the real reason they don't like it is they don't want immigrants to become citizens, and, you know, all of the talk of amnesty, which the republicans had cried from the roof tops for ten years is -- is -- has been changed obviously because of the last election, but you still see it. i mean now the big new excuse is oh, my gosh, we just had a terrorist attack and these people came over from a foreign country. the fact that they were 15 and 8 when they came over, not exactly

terrorists, is -- is totally ludicrous, but they are seizing on anything, i think, michael to slow this down and potentially stop it. >> michael: i get the feeling they couldn't care less what happened in 2012. they got 28% of the hispanic vote, and yet they still stand in the way of this, and continue to block it. tell us what are some of the tactics that they can use in congress to block this. >> one of the things they would like to do obviously is to extend the hearings, have more investigations. you can spend ten years studying chechnya, michael, i mean come on. but you have folks like the speaker who says listen this should not be delayed because of boston. you have john mccain saying to delay an immigration bill is ludicrous. so there are enough republicans i think, who are committed to

pushing this along, and to not being the pariia party when it comes to hispanics that we're going to see things move. chuck grassley it took him a year and a half in delaying the health care bill. he is a procrastinate for, par excellente. >> michael: well let's take a look at what hand today in the senate. >> i say that particularly those who are pointing to what hand, the terrible tragedy in boston as a -- a -- i would say, excuse for not doing a bill or delaying it many months or years. >> i never said that. >> i didn't say you did sir. >> i didn't say that. >> mr. chairman i don't appreciate the senator --

senator -- demeaning the witnesses that have come here. >> let me finish. >> michael: sometimes it really is the best theater out there. what are they thinking, peter? >> well, i think there are a certain number of republicans -- and i wouldn't put chuck grassley in this category, but there are some -- and i might put ted cruz in this category who say look what are we going to do? we now going to have 11 million hispanics voting? i don't want those folks voting in my state. i might lose. and as you point out if you continue to get 28% of the vote you are going to lose because of the demographics, so instead of worrying abouten franchising people, they should be saying look, what can we do to -- to be more appealing to hispanics in this country? how can we be more welcoming?

what can we do to see it to that their values and our values coincide. >> michael: you talk about enfranchising people. they spent half of this year trying to disenfranchise people and half of them don't even want the reform. but there are others who are not jumping on the wagon to delay a vote. will this create a greater scizm in the republican party now? >> i think it will. you have a group who don't want to see any immigration reform. and i think what you are going to see within that party is you are going to have a battle royal on this issue as well as other issues. you are seeing it right now on gay marriage as well you are

going site on abortion and a whole host of issues and if you are not a true believer, if you don't take all of those litmus tests to the satisfaction you are going to be persona non grata in this party. >> michael: absolutely. what is the motivation for marco rubio? >> well, first of all he comes from florida, so he kind of gets this message. secondly, he can see that he can be a conservative on most issues for republicans, but be somewhat of a hero on this issue, and neutralize the democrats advantage. but, you know, the -- the trick here, i think for someone like marco rubio, is you still have to get through that primary gauntlet. you still have to go through those states where if you are viewed as not 100%er, you are in

trouble. so the question becomes does he get knocked off by a santorium or somebody like -- you know, like a cruz if he decides to go for higher office. cruz right now is acting like he has been in the senate for 20 years. >> michael: i have never seen anything like it. always smart, always fun, democratic strategist peter fenn thanks for coming into "the war room" again. up next on the show well if this isn't the perfect illustration of how washington work works, i'm not sure what is. unfortunately it also paints a pretty good picture of how airline travel is going to look now that the sequester cuts are kicking in.

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on it yesterday. >> we all know that we have had a sequester. and so far it hasn't hit very hard unless you are in a specific little area, but right now the southeaster will start biting and hurting new yorkers and people throughout the country when it comes to air travel. >> michael: that guy likes a mieg microphone. the federal aviation industry will need to furlough 40,000 employees. they are expected to last up to 11 days and will go through september. there has been a lawsuit filed against the faa, but the case has not been taken up in court. the furloughs could result in delays or canceled flights for one out of three airline passengers. the busiest time of year for

travel could be a little bumpier than usual. joining us from washington is former "new york times" correspondent elizabeth becker. elizabeth just penned a new book called "overbooked: the exploding business of travel and tourism." welcome inside "the war room." >> it's nice to be here thank you. >> michael: what impact will the sequesters have on travel to america? >> well, i'm not convinced that the furloughs will come about. i would say that president obama has shown a partiality to listening to the tourism industry. so i'm not sure it is really going to happen. i think there could be a change of mind. but overall america is just recovering from what the industry is calling a lost decade, where a series of idealogical arguments, and the 9/11 border changes really flattened out tourism for the united states when it was

booming in the rest of the world. >> michael: it is almost too easy to complain too about how bad air travel has gotten. but what the american citizens have to go to is nothing compared to what foreign visitors have to go through to get into america. >> if you are a male from a predominantly muslim country, you have the most severe requirements. other than some european countries, you have to now have a visa and have that visa approved at an american consulate. all of that is hard for a country like russia, you could travel over a thousand miles, get to the consulate and be rejected. even if you get your visa and come to the border, you could be rejected.

during that time the percentage of wealthy tourists from europe and asia has gone down and half of our tourists were from canada and mexico. >> michael: yeah, of course as an american you don't think about it every day but if you are an american who counts on the tourist business you think about it a whole lot. what are the consequences for america's reputation abroad as well as the financial repercussions. >> that lost could be about $500 billion, about half a million jobs and $30 billion in tax. the easiest way to tell the story is through the loss of the olympics for 2016. if you remember, chicago was one of the four finalists, and president obama and his wife michelle went to copenhagen to argue the case and that's when the president discovered what

the effect had been. the olympic committee said i'm sorry, but we can't risk the games, your border system which we believe will harass and reject a lot of athletes. >> michael: that's just amazing. this is the country of give us your tired, give us your poor, but once you get to the border we're going to send you home. but prior to 9/11 there was controversy about whether the federal government should promote tourism to the united states. >> when the republicans gained control of the house in 1994 and as you remember newt gingrich became the speaker there was a clash immediately with his vision of small government versus the clinton white house vision of smart government. and tourism was the completely surprising battleground.

president clinton and vice president gore thought the opening of the world with the dawn of the internet travel and tourism was a good bet for increasing the wealth of the united states. representative gingrich said no the government has nothing to do with tourism. we should get out of tourism. and essentially with budget control, zeroed out the office and this was just months before the 1996 olympics which were in atlanta, and you remember of course, representative gingrich was from georgia. >> michael: of course. before i let you go, i do want to ask you to answer quickly what america needs to do to strike the right balance between security and making our country a place that foreigners really do want to visit. >> well, as i show in my book. there are lots of easy easy things to do and the diplomats

have said the best tourists are the best diplomats, and we can do that by making the visa process easier having a friendlier border, having people who actually speak foreign languages. it's not a hard balance as long as that is what you are looking for. but for so many years there is no discussion of how this effected the tourist industry. and that's what you do you look for a balance. >> michael: the book is called "overbooked," that's elizabeth becker. we thank you for being here in "the war room." coming up, again, it was a real-life willie won ka held a golden ticket contest, and that golden ticket was to be governor of california. and much like the movie, an austrian who's appetite got him in to all sorts of problems was one of the winners. that's next. stay with us. (vo) with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way

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>> watch the show. >> only on current tv. >> michael: ten years ago this month a monty crew started a process that turned politics in the nation's biggest state absolutely upside down i'm talking about the recall of california governor gray davis. davis a democrat was dogged by a saggy economy, energy blackouts, and frustration from his labor union base. fewer than 900,000 signatures were needed to launch the recall. it took only 65 signatures and $3,500 to get on the ballot. aside from the two candidates a cast of more than 100 characters ended up on the ballot from the famous arnold schwarzenegger

arianna huffington, and larry flynt, to the onabsurd. a primary system that now rewards the top two vote getters regardless of party, and taking responsibility for drawing district boundaries away from lawmakers and giving it to state -- senator's panel. joining me now is joe garofoli. welcome back into "the war room." >> i object to calling gary coleman absurd. >> michael: yeah you could have said what are you walking about? how did this turn into this

major recall. >> there was a very low turnout for the previous election very nasty where gray davis was up for reelection so the bar was low to have a recall. you had the energy crisis people thought davis bungled it he passed a vehicle license fee to raise money, because the economy was tanking in california. the stage was perfect. it was perfectly set. there is always a band of conservative activists who were very active and they wanted davis out. and the labor unions were like hey, you got to help us out. he had no friends and he was doomed. >> michael: also was the tripling of the vehicle registration tax. wasn't that really at the crux of it. people were just outraged by that. >> oh, absolutely. especially in california, we

have a car culture. and it hit everybody. it was something that every voter could be angry about and the conservatives could tap into that anger. >> michael: and one of the ironies you point out is that that is what is costing the state so much is because the revenue generated from that -- when schwarzenegger reduced it -- >> yeah billion dollars hole in the budget. he relied on a series of tricks to balance the budget. and california is still digging out a wall of debt created during that era. >> michael: i look at it, and i know you do too in a sense, some of the things that came out of it was the tea party in california. tell me about that. >> you have the same kind of situation that birthed the recall here birthed the tea

party. a frustration that nothing can be done and anger about taxes, and if you over -- boot out the governor of california the nation's largest most populous state, you can do it anywhere. >> michael: yeah and it was only the second time it had been done, or maybe the third time. you talk about the tea party, but it also gave rise to these two political reforms which i talked about before. explain that. >> they are kind of wonky but they are really significant in california. one allows the top two finishers, whether they are republicans or democrats, whoever finishes the first two goes on to the general election so it creates competition on both sides. the other one is the redistricting, where, you know, the political lines are drawn not by politicians behind closed

doors in sacramento or whatever state capital there is but it is drawn by a citizen's panel. >> michael: but how did that come out of the recall. >> that's one thing schwarzenegger -- he was an outsider, he was from the political outside. he talked about these issues and he -- there was sort of a heat generated by them that he championed them, and also the electorate was sort of ripe for these type of changes. they said we can change the system we can boot our governor out and make some real change. and these two changes down the road they will be mimicked nationally because they are making change here. >> michael: you know, if you look back at that race and you see that arnold schwarzenegger an austrian actor and weight lifter was among the least unusual candidates in it you

have spoken to many what have you found about how people look back at that? >> it's a mixed bag. i talked to larry flynt, the publisher of "hustler" magazine. >> michael: yes, i know who that is. >> yes, he was pushing for aaron knew -- legalize -- casino gambling, which was one of his fetishes. he did it for a laugh but he talked about his fetishes. the day after he field his papers he went to hawaii. he didn't really campaign. you really don't want larry flynt kissing babies. >> michael: you certainly don't. >> but there was a long time defense attorney in los angeles. his ballot was marijuana attorney. that was ground breaking and legitimized the issue of medical and recreational marijuana, and

we see where we are today. >> michael: and didn't he run against henry waxman. >> yeah, for a very short time. >> michael: where is gray davis now? >> we sat down with gray for two hours, and it was -- i hate to say this, not a lot of news was made there. he is very reticent to talk about this. he is not trying to defend himself. he is very hesitant to talk about this. >> michael: yeah. >> he did say it was an unscheduled election, and from what we learned is it did change a lot of things that he did. he had to pander to his base. and whether it be a democrat or republican, it does change the dynamic of who is governing. >> michael: i would say the lesson is not to just hold the middle. >> yeah, go somewhere.

>> michael: joe garofoli of "the san francisco chronicle" thanks so much for being here. up next, brett ehrlich will completely misunderstanding the meaning behind a significant debt. >> it's thursday, and my segment is out of this world. don't go away. honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us.

you know who is coming on to me now? you know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely.

>> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> michael: time now to head down to los angeles and see what is happening with cenk uygur on "the young turks." cenk hit 1 billion youtube views with "the young turks." that's unbelievable. congratulations. >> thank you. you almost surprised me when you said that. i said really, a billion? jesus that sounds like a lot. [ laughter ] >> we're going to talk about the boston bombings in 18 minute ways. cyber security, did it help? did it not help? and then on the issue of miranda rights, that's one i'm really worked up on and then guns as well. they got the guns in a way that was not licensed. could we have licensed them or caught them if they had to go

through licensing? maybe the nra might be in a lot of trouble because of that, because they just defeated that kind of legislation, and i think they should have gotten mirandized. i don't know what you think about that michael? >> michael: i think absolutely he should have been mirandized and a week ago they decided hey, we're not going to close the gun show loophole and now look what we have got. so cenk we will be watching "the young turks" in a few mn minutes. >> thank you. >> michael: on this earth day we have some encouraging news about the state of our nation's energy supply. last week all of the energy came from solar. that is a first, even better no new dirty energy sources came online. our country's solar capacity has already doubled the amount that

went online in 2012. that's a good start. if we're going to embrace clean energy, we'll need an army of scientists to lean on. president obama did his part today hosting the white house science fair. he even jumped on a stationary bike for a first-hand look at one project. president obama said now is the time to give scientists of all ages a shout out. >> obama: as a culture, we're great consumers of technology but we're not always properly respecting the people who are in the labs and, you know behind the scenes creating the stuff that we now take for granted. >> michael: the guy didn't even break a sweat. the white house is backing up that talk with the launch of a new ameri-corps program to promote science education. and earth day is the last day the state department will receive public comments on the

proposed keystone xl pipeline. there's been a trove of misinformation about what the pipeline actually delivers, so get out a piece of paper and jot down these handy facts from "think progress" as you prepare your comments . . . make your voice heard by sending an email to the state department at keystone comments@state.gov. we also put a link to the state department's keystone page on our website, so email now or forever hold your peace. and don't worry if we were being too serious about earth day,

because our own brett ehrlich isn't. just cam down, brett is talking now. >> hey, everybody, it's earth day! woo-hoo! earth! it's your day. you are looking so good i could miss kiss you. in fact i'm going to. oh, wow, morning breath. google shows a delightful earth that is flat. well done google. this earth day i'm going to celebrate by tipping my hat to people on this planet who clearly aren't from it. the aliens among us. first up chuck grassley. here is how he reacted today. >> i say that particular those that are pointing to what happened, the terrible tragedy in boston as i would say an

excuse for not doing a bill or delaying it many months or years. >> i never said that! >> wow, the alien doth protest too much. then tom foreman, he thought the best use of the news apparatus is to drop backpack. >> if you look at the outline of the backpack this is a fairly substantial pack here. that's a fairly substantial backpack. >> yeah tom, we on earth call those backpacks, and that's what they are shaped like. now do you want to say something useful? and finally we would like to tip our hat to the fbi agent who cracked the whole case. richard deloriay because -- there has got to be at least two brains in that

head. i'm done talking now. >> michael: thank you for joining us here in "the war room." before we go, we have to say a sad good-bye to folk singer richie habens. he is best known for his spiring performance of motherless child captured in the wood stock film. it immortalized future generates of activists. good night and good-bye richie havens. ♪ freedom freedom, freedom ♪ ♪ sometimes i feel like a motherless child ♪ young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know

that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us.